we weren't talking about the economy. we weren't doing all of that stuff. so in some way, that may have hurt him. and yet, at the same time, that all that was happening, in westchester, ohio, he was pulling out 30,000 people on a dark, cold night. so balance that out. . >> schieffer: but-- but what you're saying eye don't think anybody sitting at this table would think that the storm would cause new york to suddenly go republican. >> oh, my goodness, no. >> schieffer: or new jersey to be republican. >> no, no. >> schieffer: but i guess the question what we saw in that time period there, does it go out to the rest of the country and have an impact there? what do you, john? >> i think coming out of that, if you look at the question of momentum, which is hard to define, coming out of that debate in denver, mitt romney had republicans behind him who felt excited about him afresh. it wasn't just that he was the vessel to beating barack obama. they liked him. i think that momentum stays intact. there was another force propel him after that debate, though, and tha